Gladly, i checked my WD ELEMENTS drives, a NONE of the internal drives is PLAGUED by SMR! (1) WDC WD20EARX-00PASB0 : 2000,3 GB [1/0/0, sa1] - wd Drives found in these can be WD100EMAZ (rebadged WD HGST Ultrastar He10/WD Ultrastar DC510 Helium drives) and WD101EMAZ (rebadged WD UltraStar DC HC330 drives). Can’t even answer a simple question on the fundamental technology in the product. Oh, also, it … (2) WDC WD40EFRX-68N32N0 : 4000,7 GB [2/0/0, sa1] - wd (One month late because I've been lazy.) Point is both are proven tech for several decades. I think it’s very unfortunate and quite disappointing that WD has no idea what kind of drives they’re selling, and worse still, SMR drives have a lot of problems that WD is not standing behind. ... PMR also is the same thing as CMR. Period! I just had a 10 Tb drive I paid over 200 USD for and it dies after 2 months. daitro on 08/07/2020 - 14:41 . Funny and sad at the same time. So they can target “specific” markets with the SMR drives? Called tech support, the 1st agent did not know what PMR or SMR are. The PMR space is like temp work space that is written to at normal drive speed and slowly written to the SMR areas after. Easystore WD 10… It was SMR. SMR drives are completely unsuitable for for a NAS or performance disk. I have many WD external drives, and i DON’T WANT any drive with SMR!!! List of WD CMR and SMR hard drives (HDD) Updated table : 23/10/2020. But fine for archival and backup disks. It seems SMR is used to push capacity sooner than PMR is ready for, but they eventually seem to make some (bought a WD gold 7200 RPM drive that’s PMR). Hello, i just switched my system to 6x WD120EDAZ 12TB Drives. Therefore, it's possible you didn't get a drive using SMR depending on when you purchased it. Shuck it and start using it, I noticed that there's random noise from the drive when reading / writing. https://www.cdrinfo.com/d7/content/wd-lists-hard-disk-drives-use-slower-smr-technology. I need to know which of the drives support it or not. All were PMR. Check for TRIM support, if it is present then it is definitely SMR. Is WD USING RAID / more demanding users as “guinea pigs” to test SMR and then move on and use SMR on +14TB drives??? No more ADVANCED FORMAT ■■■■ nor SMR. Why is that? Hey Boss, WD is being sued over this. Well spoken, Thread UPDATE: If your drive has WD-"AX-AZ- I think A Period. This may have been the case 2 years ago but times change. So… Talk about incompetence and a lethargic response - like they didn’t even give a ■■■■. ... At least its not SMR. FYI, the 10TB uses a similar WD100EMAZ helium drive. But there are still low-cost, pennies matter, systems being sold - likely to be purchased users not in the know. It works great, but I'm a little bit uncertain whether the write/read are slower than they should be. I say this because, WD has the same “infected SMR drives” using the well known PMR tech! How BIG is it? https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-red-hdd/data-sheet-western-digital-wd-red-hdd-2879-800002.pdf. WD - easystore 8TB External USB 3.0 Hard Drive - Black. It seems like a marketing TEST!!! The WD Red Family BEST BUY, the BEST BUY logo, the tag design, and MY BEST BUY are trademarks of Best Buy and its affiliated companies. The second “technician” said SMR stands for Standard Metabolic Rate! Listed below: ST8000VX002 ST8000VX008 SMR ST6000VX011 ST6000VX010 SMR ST4000VX005 ST4000VX013 SMR ST3000VX017 ST3000VX016 SMR ST2000VX012 ST2000VX015 SMR . WD Blue WD10SPZX - hard drive - 1 TB - SATA 6Gb/s - overview and full product specs on CNET. You can read my write up about SMR on my site. Called tech support, the 1st agent did not know what PMR or SMR are. PMR is the successor to Longitudinal Magnetic Recording (LMR) and achieves a data density three times higher than its predecessor LMR – the read / write head has been optimized for this and the vertical positioning also contributes to this. The 8TB EasyStore contains a WD80EMAZ helium drive (up until late 2017 the NAS Red drives WD80EFX). PMR/CMR, perpendicular/conventional, are essentially the same thing these days. Easystore WD 10TB Drive Shuck #2. So now, according to this article, they have made a small attempt at indicating what technology is used and in what drives. That means these drives have to use SMR, the slower performer. With drives up to 6TB, WD Red™ offers a wide array of storage for customers looking to build a NAS solution. This is a helium-filled 256MB cache drive, like the WD Red 10TB solution. I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER EXTERNAL WD DRIVE AGAIN!!! https://support-en.wd.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/20230. But no more WD for mainline storage. Filled out an online email form and received no answer. They wouldn’t replace it because I took it out of a MyBook enclosure. No response on that. PMR, or Perpendicular Magnetic Recording, is a method in which magnetization takes place horizontally and vertically on platters. There is no clear marking of which technology is being used. You might have to call WD Support and give them the serial number, from there they might able to find out for you if HDD is SMR or PMR drives. and Stupid WD support… ). WD knows exactly what they’re selling, naturally. From what I read, they started inserting SMR drives into the red NAS line around early 2017. ... Seen as im using SHR raid Ive decided to expand my array with either 8 or 10 tb drives which still seem to be PMR drives for now and they still are vastly available. I ended up buying a manufacturer refurbished 10 TB Gold datacenter drive for $170 on eBay to replace it, because I was certain it was PMR (was right in the description). PMR - Perpendicular Magnetic Recording (both CMR and SMR type drives use it). © 2021 Best Buy. Filled out an online email form and received no answer. 6 months ago. The UltraStar, Enterprise, Gold, and Purple series aren’t disclosed either. Seller: jennifeholli_4 (485) 100%, Location: Denver, Colorado, Ships to: US & many other countries, Item: 283243145223 Western Digital 10tb White Label (OEM Red) WD100EMAZ 5400rpm 256MB Cache NEW. And a supervisor said they can’t disseminate the information I’m asking for. smrじゃなくとも、リビルド中に他のhddも壊れてデータ飛ぶってのはあり得る 375 : Socket774 :2020/08/12(水) 20:40:24. Today, we are going to look at the first helium-filled WD Red model – the 10TB WD Red (WD100EFAX) NAS drive!. garetz on 08/12/2020 - 09:44 +1 vote. All rights reserved. Powered by Discourse, best viewed with JavaScript enabled, Incompetence from WD support on PMR or SMR drives, Buyer beware—that 2TB-6TB “NAS” drive you’ve been eyeing might be SMR, WD publishes complete list of SMR drives following user backlash, WD Red SMR vs CMR Tested Avoid Red SMR | Page 2 of 2 | ServeTheHome, https://documents.westerndigital.com/content/dam/doc-library/en_us/assets/public/western-digital/product/internal-drives/wd-red-hdd/data-sheet-western-digital-wd-red-hdd-2879-800002.pdf, https://crystalmark.info/en/software/crystaldiskinfo. User rating, 4.7 out of 5 stars with 5647 reviews. garetz on 08/07/2020 - 08:27 ... these won't contain a WD100EMAZ, but instead a WD101EMAZ. WesternDigital continues to “hide” what technology is used in your hard disk. (3) WDC WD1600BEVS-22UST0 : 160,0 GB [3/0/0, sa1] - wd. FYI, the 10TB uses a similar WD100EMAZ helium drive. The Gui showed my about ~125MB/s for each disk. WD100EMAZ - the AZ suffix and 256MB cache strongly indicates SMR. (BTW, if you ask WD how to know the DRIVE MODEL inside an external WD enclosure, they will tell you it’s impossible!!! Built and tested for personal and home NAS systems with up to 8-bays, these drives pack all the punch you need in one powerhouse unit for storing, archiving, and sharing. I would fully expect such information to be indicated on the product datasheet. AND GET THIS! Too bad WD doesn’t help the customer know that information without making (the customer) wade through a ridiculous branding scheme of meaningless colors.And even then they’re not telling you everything. I’m out $200+ because of this bad SMR tech and am not happy about it at all. I hear you completely. Updated table : 23/04/2020 Prices and offers are subject to change. Unhelpful (2) They are conventional PMR drives with NAS firmware. WD doesn't advertise which new drives in the 2TB-6TB range use this technology. Why keep SMR and PMR drives with the SAME capacity in the same line and HIDING this info from customers? Note that currently, the MAX capacity drive using SMR is the 6TB WD60EFAX, with 3 platters / 6 heads… So… is that it?? And a supervisor … Customers MUST be informed of this new tech, even those using EXTERNAL SINGLE DRIVES ENCLOSURES!!! I now have to deal with these hidden landmines because WD does not put SMR / PMR on the label, which is very deceptive. I bought 3 of them recently and shucked them. The popularity of Network-Attached Storage (NAS) systems has fuelled a surge in demand for large capacity hard disk drives. (EDIT -> COPY or CTRL-C). In-store pricing may vary. DM-SMR - Device Managed Shingled Magnetic Recording. Just got my black friday WD Easystore opened. Minimum disk is 12tb large for helium disks now as far as these shuckable externals are concerned. This because certain drives earmarked for use in NAS were not really living up to the performance expected. WD technicians don’t have a way to query the drive and ask for the model number?? You can refer the link provided below for more information on PMR technology. I will choose CAREFULLY from now on, buy INTERNAL drives, and use my own ENCLOSURES! Pricing. I don’t want a mechanical disk that overlaps tracks and has to write adjacent tracks just to write a specific track!!! WD don't make SMR drives larger than 6TB, so yes this is not a SMR drive. And after some coaxing, said that they are both PMR, but that doesn’t make sense because of the weight of the drives and their buffer sizes. This is why the drive continues to work long after a large write operation …it’s flushing the PMR space to SMR area. While that also sounds like a win for consumers, these drives are not suitable for NAS environments due to their... We tested WD Red SMR v CMR drives to see if there was indeed a significant impact with the change. 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